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40 mpg compact sedan comparison

Yahoo Autos/Motor Trend -- It's a powerful number -- 40 mpg. Car engineers do sophisticated analysis to figure out how to reach it, and the numerical game often comes down to just getting to the threshold where the number rounds up to 40.

It just so happens that we're practiced at rounding up, too -- in this instance, rounding up six significant examples of this rarified 40-mpg breed to determine if any of them are also cars you'd be happy to own.
The select six we've summoned to our investigation are the Chevrolet Cruze Eco (28/42), Ford Focus SFE (28/40), Honda Civic HF (29/41), Hyundai Elantra (29/40), Mazda3 (28/40), and Volkswagen Jetta TDI (30/42). A diesel, but no hybrids?

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Submitted Jun 18, 2012 By: JoeWino

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iagdboy Champion Author Albany Posts:1,181 Points:495,300 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 17, 2012 3:42:15 PM Ignore iagdboy Report Abuse let me guess. front wheel drive , manual transmission
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:10,926 Points:1,922,555 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Jun 22, 2012 12:04:07 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse Chris46, Not with current marketed technology.
Chris46 Champion Author Dayton Posts:23,649 Points:2,079,390 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 3:00:40 PM Ignore Chris46 Report Abuse As hard as you try, you still can't get 30mpg out of a full size pick up.
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:10,926 Points:1,922,555 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Jun 19, 2012 10:39:08 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse Gnusman53, I like what you're writing.
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,993 Points:1,109,495 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jun 19, 2012 2:11:05 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse suzzoom ... just depends on how well you drive...
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,993 Points:1,109,495 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jun 19, 2012 2:09:36 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Mileage-wise, we are still decades behind europe in mileage... thanks to the GOP freezing CAFE back in the 80s...
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,993 Points:1,109,495 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jun 19, 2012 2:08:19 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Aviator Rob...engine tech and gearing..... a great cruising gear ratio can improve highway mileage by up to 10 percent....
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,993 Points:1,109,495 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jun 19, 2012 1:31:50 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Still waiting for GM's Triplets...
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,993 Points:1,109,495 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jun 19, 2012 1:31:11 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Actually, sometimes you can get better than the EPA mileage numbers.... just depends on how you drive...
rx7racerca Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,192 Points:1,111,145 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 9:54:24 PM Ignore rx7racerca Report Abuse Have driven, and really like the Mazda 3 and the Focus - agile, fun to drive cars that happen to get great mileage.
10k Champion Author North Carolina Posts:21,231 Points:2,252,070 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 9:49:36 PM Ignore 10k Report Abuse they say 40 and you get what, 10% less, so they really mean 36 ??..
NanaNJNJ Veteran Author New Jersey Posts:280 Points:56,025 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 9:41:01 PM Ignore NanaNJNJ Report Abuse Imagine 40! I get no more than 16 mpg.
carloco75 Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,706 Points:598,415 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 9:41:00 PM Ignore carloco75 Report Abuse This article is fantastical readiture...
Amtrgas Champion Author Oakland Posts:2,678 Points:1,619,070 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 9:17:09 PM Ignore Amtrgas Report Abuse They tell one thing, you get another.
cmsense Champion Author Columbus Posts:1,358 Points:165,345 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 9:09:53 PM Ignore cmsense Report Abuse Let's see how many individuals out there will shun small autos when the next economic boom raises the price of gas to $5 or $7/gal.America is on the cusp of a paradigm shift regarding it's energy future, our decisions NOW will determine OUR amount of pain in the future.
blk911 Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:2,923 Points:771,115 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 9:08:37 PM Ignore blk911 Report Abuse Who wants to drive one of those???
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,482 Points:1,508,130 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 9:07:31 PM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse I remember the 40 happy happy happy commercials of the fifties. Nobody bought those tincan cars.
WVUtailgater Champion Author Cleveland Posts:8,426 Points:1,696,735 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 9:02:50 PM Ignore WVUtailgater Report Abuse to small for me
Mustache_33 All-Star Author Toronto Posts:900 Points:181,455 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 9:00:55 PM Ignore Mustache_33 Report Abuse ...
gus8441 Champion Author Baltimore Posts:2,104 Points:440,875 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 9:00:44 PM Ignore gus8441 Report Abuse good read
carloco75 Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,706 Points:598,415 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:59:43 PM Ignore carloco75 Report Abuse Keep the "comparison" going...it's fun..
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:554,730 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:57:28 PM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Lets see a truck with 40+ MPG
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:411,815 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:50:39 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Why not make it a large car or an SUV, mplato? Give the engineers some credit. This is a bigger mileage improvement than we've seen in the three previous decades. By 2025, cars will need to average 57mpg. Engine technology will get there but it takes time.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:411,815 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:47:54 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Please try to stick to the topic at hand, kc58veteran. Save the politics for the Fox News website.
Eugenian Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,847 Points:359,205 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:47:24 PM Ignore Eugenian Report Abuse Looks like GM's got a winner in the Cruze.
mplato Champion Author Columbia Posts:8,239 Points:1,813,320 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:46:30 PM Ignore mplato Report Abuse lets see them get it in a mid sized car
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:411,815 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:46:16 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse While I want to agree with carpenter4u, you must realize that people have very little real choice in what they want in a car. The automakers have spent millions of dollars in marketing and commercials to get you to buy bigger cars with larger engines than any of us really needs. Of course, cars aren't about needs but about want and desire. Cars make us look stronger or smarter or sexier. And we'll pay lots of money to feel that way.
Chris46 Champion Author Dayton Posts:23,649 Points:2,079,390 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:45:13 PM Ignore Chris46 Report Abuse Give me 40/mpg in my truck
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,794 Points:1,841,500 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:44:44 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Get real. Do the tests in a REAL world setting. Not idealistic company test lab.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:411,815 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:41:31 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse I think carman11 just invented a real-life perpetual motion machine. The only drawback is that you can only drive it downhill. I think we all can agree that it takes more fuel to drive uphill than it does to travel on level ground.
Suzzoom Champion Author Nevada Posts:2,354 Points:503,285 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:41:22 PM Ignore Suzzoom Report Abuse That's 40 mpg on paper, not on real roads or in traffic.
flyfast Champion Author Kansas City Posts:9,238 Points:1,823,860 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:39:52 PM Ignore flyfast Report Abuse OK FOR ONE
IUVidiot Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,575 Points:706,410 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:39:24 PM Ignore IUVidiot Report Abuse ok
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:411,815 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:38:28 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse If it weren't for those regulations and government agencies, you wouldn't see any cars with 40mpg, rf6480. The only reason new cars are getting much better mileage than cars from only a few years ago is that the government finally raised the mileage requirements of new cars from the low to mid 20mpgs, where it had been sitting since the early 1980s.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:411,815 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:35:14 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse abcdMA, ask yourself this question. How many people does my car carry every day? Are you hauling a kids football team every day? Do you need a large trunk to haul bags of mulch from home depot every day? The best way to save money and still have a practical car is to buy one that meets 80% of your needs. If you buy one that will handle 100% of your needs, it will cost you far more in the long run. Better to shoot for 80% and then rent a car, truck, or van for that other 20% that you only need once or twice a year.
firefly09 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,493 Points:715,745 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:32:19 PM Ignore firefly09 Report Abuse No Thank You.
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,790 Points:816,385 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:28:37 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse Interesting article...
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,993 Points:1,109,495 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:25:38 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Great for the open highway also...
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,993 Points:1,109,495 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:24:55 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Small cars are very safe....and are a lot harder to hit because they are more maneuverable...
tippybuddy Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,523 Points:207,740 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:24:01 PM Ignore tippybuddy Report Abuse ok
JagXKR Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,144 Points:1,088,605 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:22:54 PM Ignore JagXKR Report Abuse Great cars for those who need them.
grn7stars Rookie Author Washington Posts:36 Points:165,225 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:22:19 PM Ignore grn7stars Report Abuse ok
blazerbob91 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,130 Points:1,880,745 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:21:52 PM Ignore blazerbob91 Report Abuse Great for local driving but not on the open highway.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,912 Points:1,573,030 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:16:46 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse but how many people can they carry?
JoeKR Champion Author New Jersey Posts:9,458 Points:1,742,295 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:16:38 PM Ignore JoeKR Report Abuse I keep remembering the Sprint that was doing better than 40mpg in the mid 80s. 30 [plus years later and we can only find six? I'd say the oil industry has had their hands in this process!
cutter1330 Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:8,025 Points:1,692,165 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:14:06 PM Ignore cutter1330 Report Abuse My '10 Altima get about 30 to 33 @ 75 mph, I like that just fine.
listerone Champion Author Boston Posts:3,370 Points:876,815 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:13:20 PM Ignore listerone Report Abuse My mid sized diesel sedan get 38mpg highway
dky63 Veteran Author Illinois Posts:417 Points:166,965 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:13:19 PM Ignore dky63 Report Abuse ok
kzrooster Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:2,370 Points:514,575 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:10:06 PM Ignore kzrooster Report Abuse Would love to see 30 even. My '09 Altima gets around 27 on the highway.
N4PIP All-Star Author Miami Posts:888 Points:416,505 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 8:08:14 PM Ignore N4PIP Report Abuse I'd love to get 28mpg on regular! My 2002 sport coupe only gets about 20mpg on average and requires premium. Can't wait to get something more economical.