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WAFF channel 48 TV, Huntsville, AL -- SEASIDE HEIGHTS, NEW JERSEY (WAFF) -

The hurricane-ravaged east coast has been receiving north Alabama help, but crews from Huntsville Utilities learned they'll be doing work in Long Island, New York instead of in New Jersey.

Crews from Huntsville, as well as Decatur Utilities and Joe Wheeler out of Trinity headed up there this week, but Derrick Moore, one of the Decatur workers, said they were told by crews in New Jersey that they can't do any work there since they're not union employees.

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Submitted Nov 01, 2012 By: CrappieFool

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bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,955 Points:669,990 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:09:27 PM Ignore bston Report Abuse Not being too partial are we? [Edited by: bston at 11/3/2012 2:10:26 AM EST]
nsdp Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,117 Points:47,990 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 3:44:36 PM Ignore nsdp Report Abuse Thinking about it crappyfool, you have done an excellent job of identifying those who are mentally handicapped and do not qualify to vote.
nsdp Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,117 Points:47,990 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 3:35:35 PM Ignore nsdp Report Abuse Not Union rules, no utility under safety jurisdiction of the North American Reliability Council would touch these crews after the Energy Act of 2005. Crews have to be tested and individuals certified for knowledge and qualifications to work the level of voltage being worked on. I seem to recall that that bill was passed by a Republican Senate and Republican House and signed by a Republican President. Digging through more reliable sources the Alabama crews are only qualified up to 7.2-12.4kv systems the work is to be on 13.2-34.5kv systems. Big difference in construction standards and safety procedures. The crews could have stayed and helped with debris removal but chose to pout and leave. The problem is not a union problem it is a safety problem. There are crews from Perdenales Electric Coop here that are non union up there working along with crews from City Public Service of San Antonio but they have all of their NERC 34.5 kv certifications in place. Sounds like someone trying to manipulate the news for political gain. I smell political bias. Red tape has been cut for those who are qualified for the work. carranco , you want your auto mechanic to remove your appendix and his helper to administer anesthesia? How about you doeslayersr or you peauxbeau55? [Edited by: nsdp at 11/2/2012 6:38:51 PM EST]
carranco Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,027 Points:270,615 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 1:44:34 PM Ignore carranco Report Abuse They didn't get the memo about all red tape being cut.
RedRam2005 Champion Author San Antonio Posts:7,883 Points:1,525,440 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 9:54:48 AM Ignore RedRam2005 Report Abuse You got to love union rules in time of crisis....can anyone say National Right to Work?
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,849 Points:2,168,625 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 9:45:33 AM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse New Jersey's loss is New York's gain. Wonder if New Jersey turns down crews from right-to-work states? I know Houston's CenterPoint Energy sent 200 linemen up to the Northeast.
avlis82 Rookie Author Georgia Posts:49 Points:32,195 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 9:21:46 AM Ignore avlis82 Report Abuse Wow. That's awesome.... Are they really that dumb?
doeslayersr Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,303 Points:899,705 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 7:39:53 AM Ignore doeslayersr Report Abuse That is the liberal, socialist, marxist and progressive attitude for you. Just plain silly. The dems are in bed with the unions.... plain and simple. They do not care about problems or suffering of people as long as they get their union dues. No, it is not silly... I take that back, it is plain asinine.
car253 Champion Author Ohio Posts:6,430 Points:1,495,345 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 6:47:47 AM Ignore car253 Report Abuse DUMB, DUMBER, DUMBEST and PLAIN STUPID.
peabeax55 All-Star Author Atlanta Posts:713 Points:186,165 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 6:24:52 AM Ignore peabeax55 Report Abuse Make sure this message gets spread. Obviously protecting what is most important to them -Unions. Forget the people suffering. Dang this makes me sick.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:35,329 Points:2,399,070 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 5:36:06 AM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse absolutely amazes me
REBELFAN39 Veteran Author Jackson Posts:367 Points:473,890 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 5:24:49 AM Ignore REBELFAN39 Report Abuse You think, in time of need, all would be welcomed!!
BBopp Champion Author Dayton Posts:6,944 Points:1,956,930 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 5:23:48 AM Ignore BBopp Report Abuse Well alrighty then! Give me a break, these unions are causing more devastation. What the unions are doing is akin to telling a surgeon you can't operate on me because you aren't the same ethnicity as me. Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Jerks.
MrDeath666 Champion Author Houston Posts:1,765 Points:271,890 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 5:15:40 AM Ignore MrDeath666 Report Abuse They must be insane! Let everybody help. Except illegals.
PTBpricer Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,885 Points:228,170 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 5:06:33 AM Ignore PTBpricer Report Abuse Cutting off their nose to spite their face.
listerone Champion Author Boston Posts:3,490 Points:904,490 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 4:29:23 AM Ignore listerone Report Abuse Union thugs want to keep people in the dark,endangering their very lives.Look for the union label my a$$!
BigRedVTX Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,015 Points:530,755 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 4:27:29 AM Ignore BigRedVTX Report Abuse And remember, to display the Union Label.... pahhh
bar1035 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:9,343 Points:1,325,920 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 4:24:17 AM Ignore bar1035 Report Abuse So with this logic can union members pump their own gas?
hokieburgh Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,226 Points:491,455 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 4:03:41 AM Ignore hokieburgh Report Abuse unbelievable.....wow!
mobal Champion Author Mobile Posts:6,023 Points:1,183,250 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 2:57:45 AM Ignore mobal Report Abuse One more reason for me to dislike New Jersey.
danny999 Champion Author Florida Posts:8,863 Points:1,666,760 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 2:45:29 AM Ignore danny999 Report Abuse What happened to NO RED TAPE OBUMMA.Your UNION CRONIES TURNING AWAY NON-UNIONhelp is a slime ball disgrace.Ypou're nlower then a whales tail.Hope ALL these NON-UNION workers vote for ROMNEY.
George0446 All-Star Author Massachusetts Posts:547 Points:248,765 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 2:27:34 AM Ignore George0446 Report Abuse If you don't want the help, then do it yourself!
WR-INC Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:39,677 Points:3,652,035 Joined:Dec 2002	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 2:19:05 AM Ignore WR-INC Report Abuse They deserve no more help.
Nancy&Len Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,178 Points:1,970,590 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 2:16:24 AM Ignore Nancy&Len Report Abuse Let them suffer.
pricewar Champion Author Ogden Posts:2,075 Points:302,490 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 1:05:46 AM Ignore pricewar Report Abuse In emergencies there are exceptions to the rules. It is volunteer time people People lives are more important then some dumb union rule.
CrappieFool All-Star Author Alabama Posts:787 Points:593,585 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 1:03:52 AM Ignore CrappieFool Report Abuse @KAR120CSII I guess you thought the article was interesting enough to read, right? If you read the entire thread, you will see that I apologized for posting it in the wrong place, but once posted with no way to change that... you see? What it has to do with gas prices is that many states that have refineries are "union" states. That means the cost of production is higher. Simple enough, right? Now that we have established that this article is valid for this forum, are you for or against unions? ;-)
FluffyDogAttack Champion Author Riverside Posts:1,203 Points:115,165 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 1:01:57 AM Ignore FluffyDogAttack Report Abuse Well, if you must get a moderator, make sure they're Union. They're the best kind for giving us unruly posters a good beat-down.
KAR120CSII Champion Author Oregon Posts:3,282 Points:641,755 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 12:55:21 AM Ignore KAR120CSII Report Abuse Gosh, how did I stumble on this group of posters? Where's a Moderator to get this and these folks in the proper place? And what's it got to do with gas? But thanks for your crediting Jersey folks as good people.
CrappieFool All-Star Author Alabama Posts:787 Points:593,585 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 12:25:09 AM Ignore CrappieFool Report Abuse I really hate to say it, but apparently at least parts of NJ live up completely to their stereotype. Sad for the good people in NJ.
FluffyDogAttack Champion Author Riverside Posts:1,203 Points:115,165 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 12:16:59 AM Ignore FluffyDogAttack Report Abuse What was that? The Speechmaker's Platitude Proclamation of, " ..America is tougher, and we’re tougher because we pull together. We leave nobody behind. We make sure that we respond as a nation and remind ourselves that whenever an American is in need, all of us stand together..." unless you're not in a Union.
CrappieFool All-Star Author Alabama Posts:787 Points:593,585 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 12:14:16 AM Ignore CrappieFool Report Abuse I've never understood the republicans liking that fat blow hard. He is really a nasty man if you corner him. Some may think this is a good thing, but it depends. For Christie it doesn't take much to make him mad and show his huge ass.
Amplion Champion Author Oregon Posts:6,921 Points:1,892,760 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 12:03:15 AM Ignore Amplion Report Abuse IT HAPPENED ON OBOZO'S WATCH !!!! GOV. CHRISTIE NEEDS TO BE THROWN OUT !!!! [Edited by: Amplion at 11/2/2012 3:05:51 AM EST]
MN1 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,494 Points:677,915 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 11:00:53 PM Ignore MN1 Report Abuse Ridiculous
barber7796 Veteran Author Oklahoma Posts:426 Points:292,410 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:55:33 PM Ignore barber7796 Report Abuse THIS IS JUST WRONG.
CrappieFool All-Star Author Alabama Posts:787 Points:593,585 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:36:36 PM Ignore CrappieFool Report Abuse @FluffyDogAttack We already have something to that effect in some states. It is called "Right To Work". Although not perfect, it is a start. http://www.nrtw.org/ Pump up this article or it will be lost in the fray!!! [Edited by: CrappieFool at 11/2/2012 1:39:47 AM EST]
FluffyDogAttack Champion Author Riverside Posts:1,203 Points:115,165 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:27:24 PM Ignore FluffyDogAttack Report Abuse I'd start a Union for those of us that loathe Unions but none of us would join because we hate Unions. F-ing Unions. They're BURYING my state (Calif.)
roadrunnerMO Champion Author Kansas Posts:8,547 Points:1,727,165 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:19:22 PM Ignore roadrunnerMO Report Abuse Union b.s. stupid just like president of u.s.
CrappieFool All-Star Author Alabama Posts:787 Points:593,585 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:07:03 PM Ignore CrappieFool Report Abuse If you are anti union, bump up this article!!!
CrappieFool All-Star Author Alabama Posts:787 Points:593,585 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 10:00:49 PM Ignore CrappieFool Report Abuse Union rules: Minimum of 2 people to do 1 persons job. Not including a supervisor, foreman and union rep to stand and observe.
FluffyDogAttack Champion Author Riverside Posts:1,203 Points:115,165 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 9:57:23 PM Ignore FluffyDogAttack Report Abuse There is a reason why many of us refer to them as "Union Pukes"
CrappieFool All-Star Author Alabama Posts:787 Points:593,585 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 9:47:14 PM Ignore CrappieFool Report Abuse @txkrb I'm right there with you. I worked in grocery years ago and was intimidated into joining the Commercial Food Workers Union. I have nothing good to say about that union. It only supported the worst employees and only took money from me. All my other dealings with unions have proven to me that they are lazy and entitlement minded. I'm sure my comments will stir the ire in some pro union slobs here. All I can say is go for it. I know what the union does and I know how union people "work", if you can call it that. Nearly every government entity in this country, especially the Federal government is just the same. Lousy. [Edited by: CrappieFool at 11/2/2012 12:49:31 AM EST]
txkrb Champion Author Texas Posts:1,597 Points:660,945 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 9:37:15 PM Ignore txkrb Report Abuse Typical crap from unions Unions had a purpose years ago now they are just drains on wallets of union members to fill union coffers and pay big salaries to union bosses
WalkingWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:3,754 Points:788,060 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 9:17:37 PM Ignore WalkingWV Report Abuse Typical BS.
cheapchickKY Champion Author Lexington Posts:4,159 Points:823,990 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 9:16:42 PM Ignore cheapchickKY Report Abuse Stupid.
el_fr Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:3,477 Points:772,400 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 9:11:58 PM Ignore el_fr Report Abuse Even in times of disaster, stupid unions get in the way
CrappieFool All-Star Author Alabama Posts:787 Points:593,585 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 9:10:03 PM Ignore CrappieFool Report Abuse One other note. Our people didn't just volunteer. They were CALLED BY Seaside Heights and asked to come help them. What a waste of our resources. @fracknsave, you sound like a pro union person... [Edited by: CrappieFool at 11/2/2012 12:11:52 AM EST]
CrappieFool All-Star Author Alabama Posts:787 Points:593,585 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:57:11 PM Ignore CrappieFool Report Abuse My apologies for posting this in the wrong place. As for the folks still in the dark, they aren't the ones who turned away our people. It was stupid unions. I guess they know our guys would make them look bad by doing the job quickly and efficiently.
fracknsave Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,666 Points:58,000 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:38:57 PM Ignore fracknsave Report Abuse If life is in peril, then help has no politics, but once the danger subsides.....
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,294 Points:1,649,905 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:37:57 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse A shame you could not place this in the correct Forum Crappie... This is not the Nation's News Forum.
SammyAdams Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:3,197 Points:820,405 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:32:42 PM Ignore SammyAdams Report Abuse Judging from the devastation pictured on TV and private video footage, I would imagine that the storm's victims would be appreciative of any help that they could get. To be refused from helping because they did not carry a Union Card is the height of foolishness and the folks who refused such help deserve to remain in the dark.